surprise !

[VGR]

Hello, I didn't know there was an other "dissident" community around ;-)

When I joined EEE (www.europeanexperts.org), I think we were the only ones around gathering "Experts" deceived from you-know-which-dot-COM-site 8-)

From memory, I thought I would NEVER see COBOLdinosaur leave you-know-which-site ;-) especially given the canonical age of his subscription & ranking achieved in the hall of fame.

I notice you seem to have started very recently (15 Sep 2005?) so I wish you a lot of good luck.

Happy new year 2006 and see you soon around.

Regards

VGR

PS : If it's in your interest, cross-linking between the two sites can become an habit, as our ASP skills are low compared to yours, and may-be some database-related or PHP-related TAs from ours can help your visitors too ;-)

PPS : if I can help here, please tell me.

---------------
former 2002-2003 top-1 expert ("guru") on PHP, MySql and Pascal. I had something like 80% answers/posted ratio. Well, not that impressive given the tech level on ee.COM, huh ? ;-)

[Srirangan]

Glad to see you here VGR. And although ERT is an initiative thanks to Cd&, this website is a democracy and everyone has a say in the management. It's not a profit minded spam fest like EE.

- Srirangan

[COBOLdinosaur]

The site is not intended to be anti-EE or anti anything. Certainly there are a lot of people here who have issues with the way that site has been degraded, but there are many (including a number of PEs) who work both sites and we are not looking for a war.

This site was started to try s different approach is all.  It was already in the planning stages when things got a little crazy over there; and it would have been start no matter how events had unfolded.

VGR, if you are interested in partnering the sites email me at partners@expertsrt.com and we can talk about it.  I am about a month away from have things set up so partner sites will be able to access our forum and content with their own branding on the pages as an extension of their sites.

If your back end is php I can probably set it up so your users can use the EEE logon without having to have a seperate login for ERT.  

Glad to have you here.  You will find there are few old time HOF level experts here.  Feel free to wander around the site and participate.

Cd&

[COBOLdinosaur]

BTW,

How did you find the site.  I am just starting to do promotional stuff and knowing what channels are already being used helps.

[VGR]

Lexxwern, when returning to eee.org, told me about this new site ;-)

I liked lexxwern a lot when on ee.com so I clicked the link to see what was around here :D

Then I discovered he was an Indian :D (one more! I already have 11 Indians out of 74 Experts on eee.org ;-)

Well, about "war" : I wrote "deceived people", not "waring rebels" :D

I already spent some time around, tried to help a bit [hello RQuadling], and I encourage you and your fellow Mentors to also have a look at what we have open in eee.org, at :

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http://www.europeanexperts.org
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See you later ;-)

[Anonymous]

:thumbup: Salute

[nicholassolutions]

Welcome VGR  :D

[VGR]

Hello you New-Yorker of mine ;-)
(or New-Amsterdamer ? ;-)

Well, I asked myself two things after reading the site more carefully :
- as it is run from Canada, are prople like you (from the USA) happy with it ? (I remember having read some articles describing the [rather bad] general opinion of "americans" towards Canadians)

- as it is run from Canada, do you have a majority of Canadians registering ? [little provocation ON] Do you also attract some "real Canadians" (French-speakers) too ? [little provocation OFF]

I also asked myself what was to be understood of "If you flame, or bait an Editor or Mentor, you invite suspension of your account on ERT" : "baiting" ? Like a "bait" (appât) in game, fishing or chase ? (something to attract a bigger prey) ? My scholar English is probably not on par with real users' :D

Anyway, enjoy Big Apple and salute Woody for me ;-)

[Srirangan]

As long as everything be fair, democratic and we all behave like true gentlemen and ladies, we should not have a problem. And the best part is the democracy.  :notworthy:

[VGR]

That was a question for an "American", but thanks for pointing out the democratic flavour of the site ;-)

[JOKE ON]
If I understand well, given India demographics compared to USA, soon you'll take over the power on ERT :D
[JOKE OFF]

[Srirangan]

Well, I for one won't support another Indian just because he or she is an Indian. I will vote for what I believe to be best. That's the way this site should work. It has nothing to do with country, religion, ethnicity, race, skin color etc.

[nicholassolutions]

I've got nothing against Canadians, except that a bunch of them drive down to NY and try to get me to pay too much for a Christmas tree each year [-( :wink:  

There will always be the little bit of back and forth. We make fun of the way they say 'about' ('aboot'), they make fun of how feeble-minded our president is. I think it's mostly in good fun from both sides...The truth is, each county relies heavily on the other. I'd say among average Americans there may actually be more animosity towards the French  :-$

The fact is, most Americans act stupid. Most Canadians act stupid. Most people everywhere act stupid.* If you've got your head on straight, you can be a friend of mine, wherever you're from.


*But then again, I guess that means the articles you read might be right.

[VGR]

ROFL

"Most people everywhere act stupid" : and then you defend a democratic model ? ;-)))

huh huh huh 8-)

Democracy is government by the masses, and masses are stupid (you said it). In fact, it's teratocracy ;-)

GOOD democracy (like the Greek model) was more a elite-ruling model ; very few inhabitants were citizens.

In short, if you believe in "most people act stupidly" (which I support also, myself counted in), then you simply can't say democracy is the best political system ;-)
In fact, it's the worst.
Really, it's perhaps the best worst system not being an "enlighted autocracy" ;-)

[nicholassolutions]

Where did I support rule by the masses? :-s I think you're confusing me with Sri :wink:

That's certainly not how ERT will work. The power to make important decisions will eventually be in the hands of the Governing Council, and right now, I consider the participants here to *be* your 'enlightened few' -- no one here is too busy eating his French fries (no pun intended!) to think about the issues, and everyone here is well above average intelligence. Mentors will have more pull than the average member, and the standards for being a Mentor will be high.

And then there's the issue of voting: most people don't, and in general education and intelligenece are strongly correllated with taking an active role as a citizen. In general, stupid people also happen to be relatively lazy and disinterested. Good thing too, because if it were the other way around, we'd really be in trouble.

[VGR]

absolutely :D

In fact, probems in true democracy begins when the "stupid masses" are pushed to vote [in a "good" way of course] by irresponsinle political (usually extreme-left wing) leaders ;-)

no offense intended, but it's the current situation here...

Enough with politics, it's far from being interesting nowadays ;-)