Firefox 3 alpha available

[rdivilbiss]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a6) Gecko/20070629 GranParadiso/3.0a6

FWIW.

[rdivilbiss]

[thepreacher]

firefox 2 alpha? hold on let me check .... Gee I am using 2.0.0.4 release how did that happen :)

[rdivilbiss]

firefox 2 alpha? hold on let me check .... Gee I am using 2.0.0.4 release how did that happen :)

Oops...should have been FF 3.0 alpha aka Gran Paradiso

[GrandSchtroumpf]

We have talked a little about Gran Paradiso a few months ago:
http://www.expertsrt.net/smf/index.php?topic=1220.0

BTW, is the point of that screenshot to show that EE's fancy backgrounds break in gecko 1.9?

[rdivilbiss]

Yes, I thought it was funny the buttons broke.  Missed Forgot your previous post, sorry.

[GrandSchtroumpf]

I checked my pages in Gran Paradiso and they all format fine (with 100% standard compliant code).
EE must use some strange code/hacks to get that result.

I looked at the EE site but could not find that search box. I tried to switch to the "expert skin" but it said i needed to upgrade to "Premium Services".  ???

EE is definitely not a reference for good web design.
Look at the site in Konqueror if you want to see other fancy backgrounds/borders break.  But that's only cosmetics.
The real problem with EE pages is that some elements are unusable with large text-size.  There is no valid excuse for that.

[rdivilbiss]

I checked my pages in Gran Paradiso and they all format fine (with 100% standard compliant code).
EE must use some strange code/hacks to get that result.

As do mine.

EE is definitely not a reference for good web design.
Look at the site in Konqueror if you want to see other fancy backgrounds/borders break.  But that's only cosmetics.
The real problem with EE pages is that some elements are unusable with large text-size.  There is no valid excuse for that.

Which is funny since they have so much participation, or could ask questions of real experts regarding that, but they did run of their best CSS people.

[COBOLdinosaur]

Which is funny since they have so much participation, or could ask questions of real experts regarding that, but they did run of their best CSS people.

Back when they first introduced the blue fog; the initial design was a total disaster.  The lack of contrast made some pages impossible to read, and and the layout did not correctly size in ANY browser.  I was so bad the "engineers" open a couple of threads and actually took some advice to fix it.  However the changes were small because Austin liked the look and so did the advertisers.  Jan got shit from Austin for opening up the threads and was told using Experts from the site was a security violation. The fact that the site was not very usable was secondary to how the advertisers want it to look "less like a forum".  The latest version of the interface is just a continuation of the carnival midway look that the advertisers love.  It looks so bad that it makes the ads look good.

There are numerous threads over the years in CSS, HTML and WEBDEV whre experts offered alternative solutions and fixes, that were always ignored, because Austin didn't think "free" advice was as good a pying some designer who had never heard of the site before he hired them.

[rdivilbiss]

Not surprising.