EE Vs ERT

[InFlames]

Hi,

I am fairly active on EE.... I recently spent some time looking through some old dialog in some of COBOLDinosaurs later postings and "conversations" with the mods..which eventually led me here out of curiosity....My question is simple, whilst I am taking no sides at all, I wonder exactly what the issue is with people firing up at EE? I mean, its a Forum like anywhere else, it just has a more known name, and a point system that motivates for challenge...why have so many members left on bad terms?

[coral1]

Welcome to ERT.  : )

There is no simple answer to that question, but for myself, it is the old story of Management vs Workers, with a dash of "Power corrupts..." thrown in.

While I still answer Q's  over there, it's nowhere near as much as I used to.
I spend a lot of time in the Lounge now, working on my Cert.  : )

[InFlames]

Hey Coral,

I recognised your name from EE, I guess i never thought much of the worker Vs Management side of things, guess it tends to affect other some people more than others.

How far off the lounge Cert are you, Man, That would take years to get!

[coral1]

I still have 14,583  poinks to go.
That will tie me with shekerra, with 5 Certs ( a private fight.  ; )     )

>> That would take years to get!

It wasn't so bad before they capped the poink limit at 50.   : /

[InFlames]

Lol funny times....what do you think of this Forum where it is smaller and a lot less in your face than EE?

[VGR]

I left after unfair treatment and fascist behaviour from Computer101, admin_something and a lot of unsupport from WesLennon
I only stayed one year
I entered the top-100 ("hall of fame") and was first  Guru in Mysql and PHP, not counting Pascal, Delphi, Windows, Hardware and Databases areas.

ffor me, EE.COM is a place where a few fil in their pockets with the money put in by "askers", whom Questions are answered by benevolent idiots like me.

now I do the same 100% free of any constraint and in better technical environment (no more sluggish JSP pages...) on http://www.europeanexperts.org

if you like EE.COM, you should like ERT and EEE.org ;-)

[InFlames]

VGR,

Cheers mate, I am on that site now having a browse...I guess i had never really looked at the fact that people are making money out of the work we do..I spend a copius amount of tie on that site as an "expert" a PE and a CV....guess if i charged for the time that ispent on there i would have a nice pocket of cash :)

I have been on there just over a year now like you and have noticed there has been loads of battles with some of the top experts and it always seems to come back to the same points so i guess there must be some truth to it, I entered the top 50 a couple of weeks ago, wonder how long till i get up there and start yelling too! lol!

Can i ask what you alias was on EE (or if you prefer to keep it personal, i can understand that)

[InFlames]

Ha after asking that question, common sense kicked in and i found your user on EE :)

[COBOLdinosaur]

Everyone who has left did so for various personal reasons.  I left quite simply because the owner of the site is a lying greedy son of a bitch.

When he bought the site out of bankruptcy he asked me to form an Experts Advisory Board to help him get the site back up.  In exchange for that he made promises and commitments about the treatment of experts which he did not keep. He made promises about the quality of the free version of the site that he did not keep.  He screwed Ken Bell, the guy who put together the Google connection that gave us the traffic we needed.  He lied to the Board, the experts, the community, and the paid members.

When the Board refused to endorse unlimited points for paid premium, he terminated the relationship, but did not let the Community know until two months later, tht they no longer had any representation.

As for the admins the dishonesty must have been contagious because they were lying doing the admin stuff for free when they in fact were on the payroll.  Threads were altered by admins to frame individuals and get them banned. Certain editors and senior members were exempted from flaming rules when the admins wanted someone beaten up in Community support.

As for teh EE vs ERT thing.  That does not exist.  EE is a trowback to old style forums that are dying all over the WEb.  They are the only site I know of that has a Greasemonkey scritp to filter them out of Google results, and they are just a game not a tech support site.

What I have developed on the ERT content side give Experts who are interested in actually helping instead of playing a game ad free, high profile exposure.  An article on ERT draws more traffic from Google in a week than any link posted on EE gets in a year, on most of our keywords we come up ahead or EE in the SERPS.  However we don't have to beat them; most of the EE crap that comes up on the same page as us cannot match the quality of ERT content.  It is like comparing silk to burlap to gravel.

There is no EE vs ERT.  They are yesterday's newspaper. ERT is not in competition with anyone because tech support and education is not a game.

I have been asked three times to come back.  I have made it clear that will not happen until Austin appologizes to me and the Community and keeps teh commitments he made when we help bring the site back from bankruptcy... don't hold your breath.

Cd&

[COBOLdinosaur]

Oh, and when I was banned on direct orders from Austin.  The deleted the comments about me being banned; for 3 months lied about it, saying I had left voluntarily; suspended other experts who pointed out the lie and supported ERT.

[coral1]

what do you think of this Forum where it is smaller and a lot less in your face than EE?

I am here. Helping in my limited ability to build ERT. And having fun doing it.   : )

Speaking of which, I have 2 articles and a Second Hand Bytes to finish up. Got to keep the bots fed.  : D

[InFlames]

Wow, that puts it pretty much out there....I had no idea that sort of crap had been going on, until i started looking through some of the big names on the sites profiles and started to see some pretty hectic arguments....

I meant no disrespect when i made the title of EE Vs ERT, I just wanted some clarification on why things go haywire.....

Sooo...whats to go on this site with helping out? I am not too bad with Networking and Operating Systems, and wouldnt mind offering a hand here and there if you like.....

[Huntress]

Sooo...whats to go on this site with helping out? I am not too bad with Networking and Operating Systems, and wouldnt mind offering a hand here and there if you like.....

I would suggest writing an article for the .COM part of our site to get started.  That might generate some interest in your areas of expertise.  Also you could submit a Mentor profile to me or one of the other admins, which would then be posted on the .COM part of our site.

[VGR]

yes (write an article to draw attention to your areas). Especially if the areas in which you feel competent are not very active. Else you can just drop in and begin to answer questions and help people out ;-)
like on ee.com :D
welcome and best regards

[InFlames]

Thanks :)

Forgive my ignorance but what sort of article?