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Title: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: fedoracore on March 01, 2007, 02:56:32 PM is there a way to indicate [as the topic author, and person "in need of tutoring"] that the thread has been resolved?
from the "help me, help me!" persepctive, i suppose it doesn't really matter-- but from the Tutor's perspective, i'd suspect that it could cut down on a lot of superfluous scanning of open threads. just a thought for y'all. ;) maybe it's there already, and i've missed it? just fyi, i think it's been vBulletin-based forums where i've seen that option... (being under the impression that a lot of this forum / portal has been "hand-rolled", thought maybe you'd like to see an example first.) Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: coral1 on March 01, 2007, 10:34:38 PM Currently there is no way to "Close" a question, other than a comment from the Asker, saying what did the trick.
As far as I know there are no plans to add that function. You can always open a discussion in Propose and Consult about it (the How-to is the top Q). If it gets enough responses, I will open a Poll in Ballot Box. Propose and Consult http://www.expertsrt.net/main/forum/board,15.0/ If you want to see some of the old one: Propose and Consult...CLOSED http://www.expertsrt.net/main/forum/board,85.0/ Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: coral1 on March 01, 2007, 10:43:33 PM I just noticed that this is IN Ballot Box. : D
If you want, I can move it to P&C. Or I will move it to Soapbox tomorrow(ish), until you are ready to open one in P&C. Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: COBOLdinosaur on March 02, 2007, 03:31:38 PM If we did decide to do something like that I don't think it would be a difficult implementation:
I don't think we would want to disable posting for a completed topic because sometimes there are later updates that add future value. We probably also have to add something to the admin tools to take the completed status off in case of a mistake. Overall I don't think it would be difficult to do. So it is more a matter of whether the community wants to do it and the GC wants to give it a thumbs up so a P&C discussion sounds like a great idea. Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: VGR on March 03, 2007, 06:20:46 AM for me, it's a consequence of ert not wanting to be "an other Q&A site" (as is eee.org)
this considered, althouth I would like that feature personally, I would vote against. it's also like the online PHP manual. If it had such an indicator, nobody would be willing/able to contribute more on a subject considered "dead". I think it's better to have continual enhancement by NOT saying "this is considered a closed issue". Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: COBOLdinosaur on March 03, 2007, 11:18:40 AM C'est un point positif. Je ne suis pas sūr comment je voterais encore.
Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: coral1 on March 03, 2007, 10:43:28 PM Quote It is a positive point. I am not sure how I would still vote. For those of us without a clue... that roughly means: It is a positive point. I am not sure how I would still vote. Moving to SoapBox Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: VGR on March 04, 2007, 01:38:33 AM in fact, the words order seems wrong and the translation faulty too.
"je ne suis pas ENCORE sūr de comment je voterais" "I'm not YET sure how I would vote" "encore", depending on the context, can be "yet", "still", "again"... Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: COBOLdinosaur on March 04, 2007, 09:40:53 PM Ah but what I intended to say was:
I am not sure how I would vote yet. (someday when I retire I may have time to master french and perhaps Italian) :^) Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: coral1 on March 04, 2007, 10:09:19 PM Hmmmmm... I just noticed that I put the the wrong thing in the quotes..
I'm Never going to get the hang of this computer stuff. : ( Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: VGR on March 05, 2007, 12:23:10 AM CD&, I thought naively that being Canadian was a benefit as to multilingual exposure ;-)
Canada is not Switzerland, but you've such a mosaic of "ethnic-linguistic" enclaves (+ basic French/English territories) that I thought any Canadian would learn at least two languages/tongues :D Naive I am, heh ? ;-) for instance, in Belgium or Switzerland all schools have to teach all the official languages (two or three). Too bad Canada hasn't two official languages. It would it you the most advanced country of northern America ;-) Anyway, even the USA children have to learn Spanish now :D Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: COBOLdinosaur on March 05, 2007, 07:28:55 AM Quote Too bad Canada hasn't two official languages. Both French and English are official languages. All Government services must be in both languages. All laws and regulations must be in both languages. Both languages are used in legislative debates and the courts. All product labelling must be in both languages (except in Quebec where business signs and labeling do not require English; but do require French. Education is interesting. At one time Children in many parts of the country were educated in both languages; where local populations wanted it. However, Quebec brought in laws that required education in English OR French and to qualify for English education both parent had to have English as their first language. That attempt to prevent dilution of the French language backfired and other provinces seperated French education into seperate underfunded facilities. The biggest barrier to French education and wider use of French in Canada is that the Quebec governments have consistently insisted that the rest of the country speak both languages, but that they can place limits on the use of English in Quebec. The response is predictable; if the languages are to be treated equally then they have to be treated equally everywhere, including Quebec. Language and cultural issues have been debated in Canada for over 200 hundred years. However, unlike many parts of the world, where such issues result in civil war; we just call each other names. There are radical ideas on both sides of the issue, and everytime it looks like we have resolved our differences, the radicals want to re-fight 18th century wars and decide who should own the country.... The fact is Europeans have no right to the country because they stoled it from the native peoples who were the original inhabitants subjugated by European military technology. Those native peoples are just now gaining equal rights and they face discrimination in hiring, housing, and the granting of credit. While Quebec raises issues about protection of French language and culture; they have the worst record in the country for limiting the use of native languages, cultural genocide against native peoples and removal of children from their families to be educated in schools where they were punished for using their native language. Fortunately, the era of such abuse has passed and we have become more tolerant, but we ahve a disgracful past in our treatment of other human beings. We were not alone in such discrimination, but that does not excuse it. Sorry about the rant. Raising Language and cultural questions with Canadians can sometimes result in venting. Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: VGR on March 05, 2007, 09:40:39 AM he he he. Nice answer ; thanks for pointing out that, as I knew, Canada HAS two official languages ; I was saying "too bad the two are not mandatory in all schools".
This issue also exists in Belgium since the establishment of this artificial state (1830). They are also calling names and at civil war state :D They also have not two but three official languages, following the robbery of the Malmédy area from Germany after WW I but the germanophones are not that a problem. They never get excited about it. In their area everything is labelled in both French and German. In the two other "communities", everything is labelled in ONE language only, and the problem is worse than in Canada because some places and localities bear very different names in the two languages. This can get difficult following a highway's signs :D In school, both languages are mandatory, but each community is very reluctant to learn the other's. Also, there are restrictions imposed on families to put their kids in any school : the same kind of the one you mentioned. This is for budgetary purposes, AFAIK. Else the best educational system would be crowded - and exhausted - by people from the other community, which in turn wouldn't contribute financially. There's no solution at hand ;-) Now if you get to history, you'll see that the French establishment in Canada was not done by spoliating the "indigenes" (not more indigenous than the Europeans, BTW) but by negociating friendship and protecting treaties. The English did it the wrong way and did a lot of bad things with "their" Indians. Compare the fate of the Hurons and the Mohawks for instance ;-) It's not in our mentality. Besides, we never had enough forces and troops to impose ourselves in an other way. (and it was not necessary, at least face to the Indians alone - things changed when the English wanted to rob us in the "Eire way" they experimented at the Cromwell time) At least the French did not deportate people to take over their land ;-) Now back to canada's politics about the "two" official languages. From what I remember, the problem came from the status of the country in Commonwealth, which is not particularly francophile, and the government of Ottawa. Ottawa implemented multilinguism in 2002, isn't that a sign ? ;-) It's also 50,9% anglophone and 32,1% francophone only, while not even 1% (0,9%) are proficient in both EN+FR : you've really a problem with the teaching of languages ;-) come on, it's not that hard to learn two :D Compare to the Swiss and take courage ;-) Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: GrandSchtroumpf on March 05, 2007, 11:49:37 AM Some corrections about Belgium.
There 3 regions (federal states): Flanders (dutch only), Wallonie (french + the small german part), Brussels (french + dutch). Brussels is the only real bilingual region but has 85-90% french speakers. Learning the other language in school is only mandatory in Brussels. French and dutch education systems are separated, even in Brussels. All the dutch teachers who teach in french-speaking schools are native french speakers, and vice-versa, which is completely absurd... Learning languages in school is impossible anyway. To effectively learn a language, you need to be surrounded by people who speak that language. The most important thing is to master ONE language correctly. Which would mean mandatory latin and ancient greek for all french speakers. All countries (including France) have local unofficial languages and dialects (basque, gaelic, ebonics). And, for the sake of "linguistic unity", none of those languages were ever respected until very recently. Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: hknight on March 07, 2007, 03:55:27 PM It looks like these forums are powered by SMF. There is a module available that adds the ability to mark threads as resolved.
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=7 I have tested the mod and it is easy to install and use. By the way, Canada might have two official languages, but only one of the ten provinces (New Brunswick) is officially bilingual. Quote in Belgium or Switzerland all schools have to teach all the official languages How many Swiss people speak Romansh? Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: nicholassolutions on March 12, 2007, 04:52:36 PM Ahh, and I thought I'd seen tha last of the "multilingual debate". But then I AM a young and foolish American :D
I'm glad to see there are no civil wars at ERT ;-) Regarding the "closing" of questions -- I personally vote "No", for exactly the reason that VGR mentioned. I don't want this site turning into another Q&A, and I like the fact that discussions are not closed over here. I like the fact that discussions at ERT are not "hey, fix this code for me...OK thanks talk to you later" -- they're not "problem-based" discussions, they are concept-based instead. I think we *do* need to work harder at cleaning up the forums and converting discussions into articles, but that's another issue...my $0.02 anyways... Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: fedoracore on March 15, 2007, 08:18:57 AM oops! darnit i almost "removed" the topic again! hee hee (does that delete the thread?)
anyway-- sorry for opening a discussion and then wondering off to stare and shiny metal objects n play w/ butterflies n stuff... as one who has little to gain from such a modification, my input on the matter-- and probably why the thought occurred to me in the first place... the idea of scanning through various threads, trying to figure out which might have a "solution" to an issue-- as it could perhaps make the needle a bit more easy to find in the haystack-- but that would require a user to actually use the Search feature... ya probably have a statistic on that (percent of visits-search-no post / visits-search-post / visits-post ?)... but other than that, and the aforementioned "benefit" to mentors, any real enhancement would surely be insubstantial. my perception of a resolved thread is not the same as closing a thread-- in that replies and continued conversation are not prohibited. i perceive the "concept" to be an indicator of a "solution lies within"... but then again, i smoka-da-peace-pipe so what do i know. ha! :) Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: coral1 on March 15, 2007, 10:44:53 PM Quote my perception of a resolved thread is not the same as closing a thread-- in that replies and continued conversation are not prohibited. i perceive the "concept" to be an indicator of a "solution lies within"... Hmmmmm... that's an interesting twist. Quote sorry for opening a discussion and then wondering off to stare and shiny metal objects n play w/ butterflies n stuff... Not a problem. We all do that. : ) Quote i almost "removed" the topic again! hee hee (does that delete the thread?) If I remember correctly, only if you do it in your question post. Other wise it just takes out that single post. I won't swear to that because I have been staring at shiny metal objects myself. Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: Huntress on March 18, 2007, 08:08:52 AM The simplest way to do this is for the thread author to "Modify" the first post which gives the option to change/add text to the subject. -OR- The authors could PM me and I can mark them as resolved in the subject.
Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: VGR on March 18, 2007, 05:09:10 PM I think askers can change/edit the subject to say [resolved] (probably resolved ;-), but the problem is he/she won't always come back to do so, having obtained his/her answer.
so probably a site admin of some sort should do it after a while, by default. the same could be said of old threads slowly dying, marking them as [unresolved] would probably give them a second chance of being adressed. 0.02 U$D thoughts ;-) Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: Huntress on March 19, 2007, 02:48:00 AM I'm going to give some thought on the wording since we are a teaching site. It seems better to use words that stay in that frame of mind.
Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: coral1 on March 19, 2007, 11:01:16 PM Quote I'm going to give some thought on the wording since we are a teaching site. It seems better to use words that stay in that frame of mind. Good idea. We need to try to keep it with the Asker. We can't really set up a CV at this time. : / Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: Huntress on March 20, 2007, 02:17:56 AM Good idea. We need to try to keep it with the Asker. We can't really set up a CV at this time. : / As long as we can agree on the wording I can write up a stickie and post it to all the forums in the form of instructions. Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: coral1 on March 20, 2007, 10:24:31 PM The more I think about it, the more complicated it gets. : /
I love a good Thought Puzzle. : ) Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: Huntress on March 21, 2007, 12:43:09 AM Ok, how's this....We mark the thread as "Mentored" when a resolution has been reached, and "Studying" if it has been open for too long without a resolution?
Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: VGR on March 21, 2007, 07:01:33 AM "unresolved" or "unmentored", not studying (because it has been studied but "unresolved" and now dates back a lot)
or "to be mentored" or "nobody knows" Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: coral1 on March 21, 2007, 10:31:48 PM Quote Ok, how's this....We mark the thread as "Mentored" when a resolution has been reached, and "Studying" if it has been open for too long without a resolution? Close. Very close. Sorry about the "Last Edited" comment in your last post, VGR. I didn't change anything. I was just checking to see if it was possible to "modify" the Subject line to indicate what answer worked for that question. RESOLUTION The main issue I am having is; different answers can solve similar seeming problems. So besides marking the main Subject line to indicate the status of the Q., it would be helpful to mark the post that Did help, plus the ones that are also possible fixes. On the other hand, just marking the main Subject might be enough to let people know Answer(s) are in there. Then again.... and I just keep going round-n-round. : / Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: Huntress on March 27, 2007, 12:58:38 AM Would that work?
Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: coral1 on March 27, 2007, 10:22:39 PM Very funny!
That big RED Resolution almost make me wet myself. : P But that does the job. We can put a note with the descriptions of what the Terms mean, saying: The post marked Resolution; may not be the only one for a given problem. Title: Re: Mark Thread Resolved Post by: Huntress on March 28, 2007, 01:50:13 AM Point taken. :-)
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